postcode hangover italians are facing global deadlock with no clear winner in parliamentary elections meanwhile a protest party led by a former comedian is making a stunning debut. russia and the u.s. agree to push for talks between the syrian government and the opposition to end the country's two year war. also at that meeting between the top countries top diplomats john kerry had admitted to problems with the u.s. adoptions of russian children and promised to ensure more transparency. plus world powers look to change iran's nuclear course at major talks with the easing of sanctions offered in exchange for the suspension of uranium enrichment apparently the main deal on the table.

good evening i'm lucy coutts moving you're tuned in to r t well moving on to our top story now the election was meant to dig a debt ridden italy out of the crisis but it is now adding political stalemate to economic distress no party or coalition has managed to secure a clear majority in either house of parliament where the country now stuck between options on the left and on the right and with the parties saying that they are unwilling to form any alliances the prospect of a hung parliament looks to be a real possibility. has more now. back with a vengeance just a ship. a man of some political experts have a political corpse just a couple of months ago. actually seems to be holding a really good. seats in the senate but again he is tied with. number one position in the senate now if we look at the lower house however parliament does seem like

the majority of. his victory there but you have to understand that this is not because so many people have voted for him it is because. it does give a lot. to the party. even by the tiniest margin and that is exactly the situation in this case. as well as a new low are all essentially tied in the parliament as well so what we have of this point is a total deadlock because none of the parties that we mentioned are willing to make alliances we have ended up with. parliament and that's what some of the. country is at this point there's no clear solution and it does seem like lections are a very very high possibility for. the third biggest economy in the eurozone what happens here is for the economy off. the bankers and politicians over in europe.

because. total. total disparity in the population is lost the one thing that they have they have made clear is that they have had enough of. the technocrats from brussels it seems like. not really saying yes to any one single party the. old policies that have been implemented by him and. everything. that they have enough. economic crisis and just willing to do anything even voting for a member. who is totally experienced and is not really politician basically voting for anybody but monti and this is this is what's happening in italy right now parties are in english the reporting they're all professor of economics lot of says that neither of the forces likely to play a major part in these decision making has

a viable plan on how to actually turn the country's economy around. it is in the critical need of evena reform to reassure the markets and i don't see it in the program that the center left gave or the degree addressed so the problem is that they're addressing parts corruptions and honesty but they're not addressing the economic issues the way that should be there's going to be clear worry of over default to a partial default and i would have that's why it's something that might this clear the markets because italy has two thousand billion euros in bed and it's six times bigger than what greece has and the international economy doesn't have the you know bit of the salvage funds to take care of a problem of this magnitude. as the markets lose ground sharply at the prospect of

a hung parliament in italy and the closer report is turning its attention to the fixing of interest rates here's a quick look at what's to come next hour. in this case there were thousands of e-mails between thousands of traders or actually a few dozen traders saying set the libel rate at a rate that is not true rig it for me and they're saying about this is somehow complicated that we can't do anything about it because there are signs of innocence outside this circle of the actual writers of innocent act being committed somewhere in the universe so i'm sure we apply a stare of guilt to this admission of guilt by h.s.b.c. yet i just recently admitted that there are a lot of money and financing terrorism but somebody somewhere there is a back something in a parallel universe perhaps so can we call it just the security can we give you say oh oh oh wow first three thousand mexicans headless because of the batting order and they just created it better is terrible but should we care because after all somebody made it is a back somewhere so you know i don't think. why

. talks between the government and the opposition are critical to ending the bloody conflict in syria which has claimed at least seventy thousand lives in the past two years alone and that is the joint message from russia and america's top diplomat who have just been discussing the crisis in their role as mediators peter all of our has been following the meeting in berlin russia or in the united states incredibly important if there is to be any kind of peaceful solution to the only going crisis in syria that's a snow for two years claiming around seventy thousand lives a level of saying that it's. incredibly important. we have confirmed this we will do all we can to set conditions for opening a dialogue between the syrian government and the opposition as soon as possible we expect the main opposition group to support the idea of the talks and to name a negotiating team. was addressing journalists he said that he had

assurances from john kerry that when the secretary of state meets with leading syrian opposition figures in rome on thursday that he would be insisting that there would be immediate talks talks as soon as possible between both sides in the conflict now this is a potentially huge move there has been deadlock really over how to solve the crisis in syria for a long time now with the united states on the opposition saying that assad to step down as president it would now seem that that is saying a softening of the opinion well this hasn't been the best of times for us russian relations one of the other major issues that was touched on was a ban on the adoption of russian children by american families now three year old boy originally from russia while he was in the chaos of an american family he

became the. in a line of russian youngsters to lose their lives while being looked after in the united states so to get lavrov saying that during his meeting with john kerry the secretary of state admitted that the problems when it came to the care of russian children that had been adopted into united states families and said that there would be transparency for russia in those situations parties peter all of our reporting on a whole host of issues there well to talk about the syrian conflict and what's actually been agreed upon between the u.s. and russia i'm joined now by author and historian well historian gerald horne has written extensively on the middle east welcome to the program sir do you believe it if in fact as the russian foreign minister has said and the u.s. top diplomat john kerry has said that they're going to try to get the opposition to join negotiations to get both sides to come to the table do you believe that this is possible because we've really seen this sort of back and forth for quite some

time now with little progress it is possible but not probable in the united states the washington administration believes that mr owen is one his way out it reminds me of the last stages of the conflict in libya in two thousand and eleven when the opposition refused to negotiate with mr gadhafi because they thought he was on his way out just this morning the new york times reported that through correlation in so eastern europe the saudis or supplying ever heavier weaponry to the rebels and the opponents of the damascus regime as washington and the saudis see it they won't be able to remove mr also from power for from what so you would then don't believe that this rhetoric at least on bringing both sides to the table is actually genuine. i don't believe it's genuine on washington's part because as

they see it things are going their way obviously washington is rather complacent about the participation in the syrian conflict al nusra front so-called al-qaeda in iraq and their terrorist means including car bombings that killed women children and senior citizens just a few days ago just as they are very complacent about the rise of so-called islamic fundamentalism in north africa as a result of the overthrow of mr gadhafi they either unwittingly or wittingly or pushing those forces into power in damascus and i'm curious we've heard some in the opposition talking about now provisional elections in a rebel controlled areas in syria i mean. these developments today give us a sense that the opposition is genuinely interested in negotiations and they're almost pushing ahead with their own independent government here well first of all you have to dissect the opposition even though you have

a number of people who talk in platitudes everyone knows that the locomotive behind the opposition is al nusra front which in gauges and terrorist tactics and has no need or no desire for elections since they plan to shoot their way into power. all right well unfortunately we're out of time but thank you so much will weighing in there author and historian gerald horne talking about the syrian conflict well another one of obama's recent nominations this time it's the new military chief and he is about to face his latest battle of course i'm talking about chuck hagel and coming up we're going to report on where exactly he stands after being all but hung out to dry in a bitter partisan standoff. all right well germany is a boosting its arms sales to gulf monarchies despite the grim human rights record of some countries like saudi arabia bahrain and qatar now activists have been

sounding the alarm over the trend accusing berlin of quote moral bankruptcy let's take a detailed look now at how the numbers actually pan out we decided to compile that for you as you can see this is the total of germans germany arms to gulf countries the total value in fact of germany's approved arms exports to gulf states stood at almost one and a half billion euros you can see here in two thousand and twelve this is a soaring figure from two thousand and eleven when exports stood at a little more than five hundred million euros now saudi arabia as you can see here is was the main recipient of the weapons and its share in two thousand and twelve nine times the amount from the year before well earlier i had spoken to reiner braun he's an activist from germany's peace movement and he believes that this trend these trends are not just immoral but also illegal. politics and it is also gave german law because german law said that is not

a. product that has. in conflict with. the region is a zone full of conflicts not only between us and these naval countries also there are a lot of internal conflicts and you know it is. faster to the most brutal. it is totally unacceptable for us they believe that the part of you will have to secure german roosts the resources we need from the region so it is only a profit business and it's a profit business on the barrier you will ride and the people that are suffering because there are under pressure and because of this is frightened by the fact of. the change the channel lots more news for you after a short break. wealthy

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back you're watching r t will the way it is now clear for u.s. senators to confirm chuck hagel as the next secretary of defense with a vote expected in just over an hour drew the ire of republicans from the outset as some of his views have put him at odds with his own party meanwhile a lackluster performance at his initial confirmation hearing didn't exactly help either while we're now joined live by our team is a guy in nature karen who is in washington for more gaia thanks for joining us there i'm curious is this really going to be a rubber stamp now or do you book spec that perhaps we'll see some other last minute hitches in this confirmation. well lucy at this point everything pretty much

everything indicates that chuck hagel will finally be confirmed as defense secretary and he can finally leave behind all that apologizing and we're painting and he had to do a lot of that to get the job chuck hagel has been working very hard to tailor his views so as to please congress as a senator chuck hagel allowed himself to oppose the surge in iraq for example to criticize israel's policies to oppose seeing war with iran as an option but as the president's nominee for the defense secretary position he backtracked on and much of what he had said before and did it in and did it as even his supporters know that in a rather clumsy way but in a way that showed how much he wanted the job and the whole confirmation process including the attack campaign against him including the filibuster ten days ago showed how intolerant the u.s. congress is of alternative thought on foreign policy ten days ago the senators knew quite well that chuck hagel would eventually be confirmed but they chose to block the vote as many say just to make

a point well guy it's probably fair to say that anyone that president obama would have nominated would have been controversial since it's hard to please those lawmakers up there on capitol hill but why do you think the president chose chuck hagel specifically given the controversy that's erupted over this. this was a very interesting decision on president obama's part he certainly knew that chuck hagel confirmation process would not go as smoothly as say john kerry's but he nominated haggling we i know it looks like president obama too wanted to make a point and this is his last term he doesn't have to think about getting reelected and it is a good time for him to make a point but by the end of his first term the degree of war mongering in washington has escalated and reached a point where the president were even the president says there is too much war talk going on nominating chalk a go could be his way of bringing bringing it down a notch he is also quite aware of the general war fatigue in the country but the us

tom was doesn't seem to have that same war fatigue as chuck hagel confirmation hearing showed quite to the country never too tired to war and i guess so thank you so much for that update artie is going to educate and keeping us up to date live from washington d.c. . well moving on iran is adamant about its right to a peaceful nuclear energy and that it should be recognized by the international community and this comes as the first day of high level talks with the six world powers in a kazakhstan has been described as quote constructive the u.s. has signaled that it could relax some penalties if tehran holds twenty percent uranium enrichment a level that could ultimately lead to the production of a nuclear bomb but the e.u. is reportedly unwilling to make a similar move will tehran has recently upgraded its enrichment capabilities maintaining that its aims are purely peaceful and allowed within international law all middle east expert ali rizieq told us that some of the main decision makers on

iran's nuclear future aren't actually the same guys who were at the talks take a listen. if we look at the behavior if you look at the offers which were made i understand not the lifting of sanctions but rather having of sanctions i think that the pro israeli right and the israeli club if i could say in general still has a significant amount of control and leverage on the u.s. policy towards iran and on the p five plus one talks and if this trend continues i don't think we could expect much because iran has made it clear that it will not bow down to talks or to pressures with a gun pointed at its head well i cannot rule out the possibility that the knot on your whole government might actually go ahead with a unilateral strike although although that is extremely risky on all levels including how the american public might react to the scenario would be israel dragging america into a confrontation i think the fundamental issue to look at the look at story is how

bold obama could be in confronting benjamin netanyahu and confronting the pro israeli right in congress well of all the economic penalties imposed against iran over its nuclear energy program the oil export ban has of course hit the country the hardest but despite the fact that it is i'm doubt only damage the economy overall it has also helped to strengthen other industries or just very open ocean has more. the international ban on iranian oil cost the country around forty billion dollars in two thousand and twelve according to the u. but despite this huge gap in iran's income officials have some good news indeed harsh sanctions normal experts have increased by least thirty percent from a year ago. so what they look like a bad thing when they actually play a positive role we've been asking our government for the many years to decrease dependence on oil to at least fifty percent was too high up around eighty percent

of making our economy too vulnerable that some say today is a historic opportunity to finally get rid of this dangerous older and and so you and iran actually has a lot of a tentative resources to feed from the well known copperheads that dates via minerals and stones between wanting this tree in particular appears to be thriving these days iran's famous discussions have been going through tough times in the last couple of years heavy frosts and terrible droughts have been damaging large parts of the harvest but this year with the country under tough economic sanctions the specials are doing better than ever. our currency ryall fell by almost forty percent in october but i sell the stashes both at home and abroad and i've benefited from price rises that you read in the stashes or exported to more than one hundred countries worldwide but even if farmers cannot send them abroad they're confident business will remain great thousands of industry workers also benefit

which has them overcome the country's highest ever inflation the amount of production and price of the shares affect our salaries every year they add ten to twenty percent of my salary busy and i have some bonus to my daily payments but producers seem to be more protected than exporters while international sanctions don't directly target the food industry current measures affect the banking system making financial transactions. it hard not to crack the also penalize the banks that. are not in u.s. and europe they may be in china or south america they penalize them for dealing with iraq that that's the main that's the main problem which is actually illegal internationally if oil is a black gold the new vista shares must be a green one at least for iran locals say these small knots have great health benefits especially for the man well to the country it also gives strength iran's biggest not all expert has always been

a significant source of revenue and as the latest round of sanctions cautious ever bites it's also something iran may have to rely on even more than before race nationality from iran. well changing gears for a little bit a video posted online by a russian couple to show off their daughter's driving skills has actually put them in the spotlight instead the clip has created massive outrage on the web and calls authorities in fact to launch an investigation why is that you may ask well because the girl who's driving the car is just eight years old let's take a look. go to at least one hundred your mother is filming here. and a two year old driver nick carr my friend i stand would have fainted if she saw this . posted on social networks well and post a video they did sparking fury across russia if the reckless decision to let a child drive a car wasn't enough in the audio you can actually hear the father encouraging his

daughter to hit the gas pedal and to go faster now as you can see here the child the child couldn't really seem to keep the car straight it was sware swinging wildly from side to side and frankly it's a miracle that nobody was injured in this terrible experiment the girl wasn't even wearing her seat belt now responses to to this video range from calling the parents potential murderers to demanding their prosecution of course that video may have generated plenty of debate online but so to have some of the other stories that we have cooking up for you at our t dot com here's a quick example of what we have for you there bahrain's rulers have banned the import and the wearing of what is seen as a worldwide symbol of protest the guy fawkes fox mask you can find out about the latest phase of the pro-democracy crackdown. also for you a standoff on the high seas environmental activists clash with japanese whaling ships more dramatic footage for you on our web site r.t.e. dot com.

to some other international news making headlines right now and we begin in colombia where colombian call for growers have clashed with the police during a rally to demand more government support for the industry it's been struggling because of a drop in international prices and workers want the state to help by increasing subsidies now demonstrators blocked roads in a number of towns but security forces said such tactics simply won't be tolerated. one thousand people have died in egypt after hot air balloon packed with tourists exploded in mid-air before falling three hundred meters a faulty gas cylinder was apparently to blame for the blast tourism officials say the people from japan and friends in britain were among the dead the pilot survived

but is said to be in critical condition. meanwhile a rocket has been fired from gaza into israel causing some road damage but no injuries it's the first a toxin to the november's cease fire and it is actually seen as a retaliation after a palestinian man died in israeli custody under disputed circumstances that the past year has seen a major conflict between the two rivals with the death toll of more than one hundred fifty palestinians on one side and five israelis on the other. britains unemployment benefits aim to provide a safety net for anyone between jobs looking for the next career opportunity but for some people the payouts are so attractive that getting out of bed to go to work doesn't really seem to be worth it polly boyko explains. i couldn't really believe my luck to be on. the dream i thought this is amusing you know british

government is helping me out you know i needed somewhere to live and i don't have a job not the words you expect to hear from someone who's fallen on hard times housing benefits allowed stephanie to rent a flat in this sport a block in london's glitzy mayfair and by myself i could always barely afford a studio in central london when i was working and. looking for a job so. it's a sprawling and complicated system but one that allows a family of four to claim up to thirty five thousand pounds a year from housing to child care and unemployment benefits i've known people. and they've been able to afford new cars to be able to afford brought on holiday i've never actually been abroad on holiday before so how can they afford a good holiday when they're on benefits and. afford to do that the welfare state

was all the idea of a man who might well be turning in his grave william beverages an idea of the five giant evils of society squalor ignorance want idleness and disease some of the very qualities that critics say the system encourages beverage was factored well for should only provide you with subsistence levels and support and it should only do so for a short period of top seventy years down the line and welfare spending is the biggest item of government expenditure milking it is so widespread it's become a source of satire you know to exaggerate the ever we're told there would be no disability allowance at he worked at docklands. do you think you can get managed just ability allowance he's got a bone to. westminster now wants to make it clear that benefits

aren't a career path and coming through the doors of your local job sensei yeah it is in and year out filling in a few forms and claiming your money is no longer an option but for people that have been through the experience of claiming unemployment benefits they say it's all too easy to get the money no one's really checking whether or not you're genuinely looking for was. right folks it's time for the latest business update with natasha and the tosh it sounds like it's getting from bad to worse in italy the country's stock market it's down it seems to be having a rippling effects throughout europe what's going on there absolutely it will and the bond yields are really on the rise indicating that investors a very concerned about what's happening there in the parliamentary elections i'll tell you all about it and the economic impact on the rest of europe in just a couple of i will we will be looking forward to it stay with us.

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matter how would your mobile device you can watch your t.v. anytime anywhere. thirty one minutes past the hour here in moscow you're watching business r.t. with me that's a show us welcome to the program. chaotic uncertainty that's how some describe the outcome of italy's general elections the country's persons the introduction of the unpopular austerity measures the main concerns relate to the former premier silvio berlusconi and his support group that rejects economic reforms this group want to unexpected high number of seats in the senate having no clear majority in the parliament of course means a deadlock and that scares politicians and economists alike the yields on the italian government bonds jumped on to use the indicating that the markets feel

uneasy about lending to italy and the stocks are not doing any better than the long bourse was deep in the red on tuesday posting its a large as decline since april but the giant more bull middle finger that's gracing the square right out front of the stock exchange in milan is perhaps given an indication of the italians attitude about it well sure it's open to interpretations perhaps this unambiguous symbol means the stock market has given the middle finger to the rest of the world but the latest they'd it is just as explicit italy's public debt one hundred twenty seven percent of g.d.p. in two thousand and twelve and it's expected to rise this year making it the second highest in europe after greece to find out what the situation is really like and how it could affect the rest of europe i asked nick parsons from the national australia bank in london if he thinks berlusconi really is the evil he's made out to be or is it more about the potential deadlock in the parliament. mr berlusconi

is probably got the position he wants which is the king maker that's to say he's got enormous influence in the process without necessarily having responsibility for it a moment imagine that that's a position that suits him immensely i think what he will be seeking to do despite the fact that he's always argued that he will not make any coalition or any agreement of any kind with mr monti from the center left. mr berlusconi's goody's own personal agenda and i think if he could strike a deal such the threat of prosecution or the possibility of immunity were to be granted to him then i think we might well see mr both berlusconi having a change of heart from some of the tough rhetoric we had in the campaign so he's got to be in a position where he wants to be and i think you'll be seeking to gain maximum

personal advantage as well as political advantage from this of course most of the investors would like to see some continuity when it comes to economic reforms in italy but there is really a group of the quantum is that believe that austerity measures are completely counterproductive longer term in fact and that the eurozone should find a way to actually stimulate its economy instead of suffocating it do you believe that we've always felt that austerity load growth was a contradiction in terms but it was nonetheless necessary in the near term in order to try to at least stabilize public finances and to show some willingness to get to grips with the scale of the problem but i think there's been a remarkable cooling of the pro austerity fervor over the course of the last three or four months but it all really stands for in october when the i.m.f.

decided to when they. blish the piece of research suggesting that the school multipliers needed to be recalculated now that's a very very dull phrase and it was a very. very technical working paper but what the i.m.f. suggested in its research was that previously they felt that if you cut a your row of spending the economy would shrink by sixty cents and your debt to g.d.p. ratio would improve they recalculated their own. workings and they came to the conclusion that in fact if you cut one euro of spending the economy would shrink by one euro forty and your debt to g.d.p. would actually go up not down now that was a major piece of research in october and a major change of heart and ever since then those people who've been really urging austerity found there fewer and fewer voices will listen to them and i think we

think that was a crucial changing point and ever since october of last year the mood against or austerity has developed pace and gathered momentum and we don't think it still is going to be from here implementing austerity who ever forms the next government and indeed across europe across all of southern europe austerity is in the wane austerity is on the way out and that in turn is good for the future of the european economy and good for confidence in financial markets. and let's now see how the rest of europe performed on tuesday it was pretty much a sea of red across the board the only two european benchmark indices that managed to withstand the downward pressure with those of ireland and denmark london split c. closed down one third of a percent the dax was down more than two percent in fact chew and a quarter percent overall wall street where the treat is active this hour the fuken

says not just on italy but also on the fed reserve chairman ben bernanke speaking to the senate banking committee he made it clear that the bond buying program was working it was working fine there was absolutely no indication that he intends to slow down or to ended so no change to the monetary policy and that's a positive signal for the markets what we're seeing right now is both the dow and the nasdaq are actually gaining value thanks old food to beat housing and consumer confidence data now on to the currencies it was pretty much flat as far as the euro dollar pair the euro was flat to negative to the dollar as to the ruble it ended the day a lower to both the dollar and the single currency as you can see right there here in moscow at present day in the red with plenty of volatility on the international markets and russia's main driver of crude oil being down on tuesday the blue chips had pretty much no place to go but down row center and bank of moscow were among

the stocks that managed to buck the downward trend. slower than expected economic growth rates are dogging not just the developed but also the developing countries that's according to the world bank it has decreased its forecast for russia's g.d.p. growth to just over three percent in two thousand and thirteen and that's not bad compared to negative growth in europe but the world bank's lead economist kasper rector criticized russia's oil dependency and praised that it was ambitious to slash and of your revenues in the budget. it's very good news prime minister has pointed to this important. russian budget if you look at the headline numbers it looks like the budget is very strong for the federal government is balance but it turns out that it relies a lot on revenues from oil of the revenues of the federal government come from oil

but if you take that out it turns out that there is a large deficit and in fact that deficit and on oil deficit has increased from two thousand to two thousand and twelve and is bigger than ten percent of g.d.p. so prime minister medvedev is very right that it's important for russia to diversify its revenue sources for the budget from oil into other sectors where do you think the russian economy will be able to operate effectively on such decrees oil revenues so if you look at the record over the last fifteen years or so. we did not see diversification happening russia last summer made a very important step by becoming a member of the w.t. the world trade organization this means that russia is recognizing the importance that global integration ultimately is the way for the russian economy to modernize

within the w.t. process russia will have about six years or so to liberalize tariffs and to bring in foreign investment into the economy so if you look of the remaining years of this decade i think this could be a very important phase for. russia you've said that the russian economy looked very saw last year how sustainable is such performance the russian numbers are somewhat solid we project that growth will there was three point four percent last year will go to three point three percent this year so slightly lower a large part of that is because. worst external environment is tough external environment and then we expected to pick up the two thousand and fourteen to around three point six percent but overall of course we know russia mission is to grow at five percent and not to three percent and we know that before the crisis russia grew at seven percent so if you take

a longer perspective if you can see that that growth of around three percent is probably not enough for russia some vision and that's why it is so important to emphasize the reform agenda both at the macro level as well as at the structural level and these reforms will help to reduce the dependence on oil but it will also help to improve growth overall in russia and also from us and business up next r.t. speaks exclusively with the main mediator in the syrian conflict the un peace envoy lakhdar brahimi said the opposition's reluctance to make any concessions to the government is one of the major roadblocks to peace that's coming up in just a few minutes keep it here in our. technology innovation. developments around russia we.

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left on the humi un peace envoy for syria it's great to have you with our teacher dacer thank you very much i'm happy to be received so we're talking now in cairo where the national coalition for opposition forces in the syrian revolution is having its conference and he will be meeting its leader. do you believe that direct talks between him and the syrian president bashar al assad are are possible not with president bashar al assad but with the government. it is necessary yes true. i think you know there are more and more people who accept that there is no military victory for any side and that you need a political solution and that part of your concern your solution meets make or

situations negotiations i think can take place between deliberation to presenting the government and the delegation representing your position so when you're saying q. maybe talking to the government but not the president directly. the problem is only in one man in bashar al assad himself or he will still remember that the opposition is saying every five minutes but they don't want to talk about our last or this is the problem six months ago your prep predecessor coffee on resigned saying that there is no way they could be a peaceful resolution in syria nor he didn't target it into has anything changed you still believe that a peaceful resolution a serious possible i mean you know first of all kofi never said his words aleutian is never possible it never said. what he said there were was that you know he was counting on the international community to help him and the international community

did not have so he said for the moment there is you know we are in front of a war he didn't say that he never said that there will never be disorders so unless you are saying that there must be a military solution. which a lot of people say. but kofi annan did not say that and i'm not saying what's your take this peaceful resolution still a great possibility it is it would not oppose for the moment it is extremely difficult it's not that it's not happening but it is a must the syria either has a peaceful resolution or then war for i don't until the country is destroy and if you don't want to be the country to be destroyed and i don't think you do then you really call for this war resolution difficult as it may be.

the. the choice really is between destroying syria and having a peaceful can i ask you something why do you think syrian uprising has such a strong terrorist element to it because if this is again. what is it that you call terrorist. very often a lot of people call terrorism what others call liberation movement and i think in syria we have something similar there are definitely acts of horrible violence and acceptable. that is done by both sides but to say that the struggle is between the government and terrorists is is a little bit pushing it too far short the u.n.

commission believes. nostra al islam. effectively jihadist tera brigades are backed from abroad and they're operating in syria a lot of people are backed from abroad that doesn't necessarily make them terrorists the job is. is is considered a terrorist organization by a lot of people including by a lot of syrians but that doesn't mean that everybody is is a terrorist in syria what do you what do you make of saudis mission that they're actually supplying arms to a lot of there's a lot of praying around on the record not saying yeah sure the russians are supplying arms to a very government. they don't they don't deny that and we have over war and. unfortunately we have a war a lot of syrians most syrians as a matter of fact both from the government and from the opposition. angry with me

because i call it civil war but it is a civil war you please at least i agree with me on something yes. you and i call it civil war a civil war always support from outside. and you have both you have two sides in this civil war and this is what level of says there are two sides to this position of the government and they should make us so let's make it very clear that there are organisations that are objectively objectively can be consider that there are organisations that are considered by the government as to orders as a matter of fact who are not there in syria the main struggle is really between a large part of the people of syria who want change they want change in their country. and that is i think a legitimate aspiration they want dignity that's what they said they want dignity

they want change they want democracy. this is the struggle there are foreigners there are a tiny minority maybe a few hundreds maybe a couple of thousand but there is a hundred thousand at least of our own people who are fighting against their government unfortunately so i mean don't try to to say that it is foreigners who are fighting against the syrian government this is not the case so you feel like syrian people could go on believing in a secular country even if as i goes i hope so that's all i'm asking that's not what your us if you are asking about yes definitely and i think that a lot of people in syria and outside outside of syria very much want syria to continue to be a secular state why do you think it has taken so long it's been two years already that's a very good question and it's the best question you have asked. it. you

know you have a very strong well organized regime. who are determined to stay in power they have the means they have the military means. to fight and doing so the opposition is in spite of all the weapons they. are not well organized they are mostly civilians who are taking up arms. and fight is why you know they can keep the struggle going they cannot win a military victory but the government also cannot defeat them this is. cindy's one thousand times that is why once again a political peaceful solution is what is necessary and good for the syrian people when i was in serious three months ago i also said that he actually will stay until two thousand and fourteen wait for the election and then see what happens i mean is

this a realistic plan. you know one. would very much like the problem to be solved long before two thousand and fourteen if it were possible to be solved before two thousand and fourteen it's much better than waiting until two thousand and fourteen because we're talking about civil war and he's talking about elections . how does this two go together they don't you can't have election wide civil wars you need to stop the civil war and the civil war can be stopped. through the negotiations on the basis of the geneva agreement so if we have that. then we'll have an election what kind of an election depends on the results of the of the negotiations his speech or in his own hands at this point should it be in his own hands i'm talking about assad i don't want to talk about that let me ask

you one more question about assad do you think the only problem is in assad and he not stepping down that is. lot of people who are opposed to or who are involved in this conflict in syria think that the president is a serious important part of the problem this is a fact and very pitifully do you believe that's the problem doesn't matter what i believe doesn't matter what you believe either you talk directly to the american government they believe that he is the problem do you think it's an oversimplistic approach or no i'm sure the realty of you are americans and you will ask them but do you speak with the syrian government and assad directly as you speak to the opposition and their leaders also you know we have an office in damascus and we're keeping very close connection and i saw president i said. to somebody so what messages are they sending to each other how have their behaviors towards each

other's changed in recent months i don't think it has changed enough to bring them to the negotiating table and this is what a lot of people including mr level of work and go. coalition the coalition seems to be under a great influence of many international players you have the arab gulf states you have the united states you have turkey you know tell me if i'm mistaken please because that's the question what is the question all i'm asking is that is it hard to go shoot with a coalition that is influenced with different international forces everybody. in the world to the people connected to one another they are influenced by one another i deal with russia i deal with turkey i deal with united states because these are countries that. i think rightly or wrongly

think that they have an interest they have a concern. they have fears about what is happening in syria. and i think they all can help the syrian people and me get to sort of do you fear do you fear there's a chance that an iraqi scenario could unfold in syria where sectarian violence spills over absolutely this is what needs to be avoided this is what you know you have already some. overtones of sectarianism. you know becoming more and more visible in the in the struggle in syria and that is why the earlier the problem is solved the better pool is to take care of that at this point he said overtones are heard at this point who is to deal with

that now i think both parties both parties have to be extremely careful to avoid and based that i think we are aware of it. but they need to be a little bit more. mark out for not to allow the situation to slip into a purely sectarian conflict mr president thank you very much for this interview thank you. do we speak your language anything about the will not advance. music programs and documentaries and spanish more matters to you breaking news a little tonnage of angles keep these stories. here.

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